Do you think Biden won legitimately? I don't. There was so much election fraud that is just being ignored. The media is just going to pretend like Biden is uniting people when all he's doing is pushing a radical liberal agenda.

elaborate please

$300,000/mo

I find it hard to believe they could be generating that much revenue legitimately.

I think they were a political hot potato. Hosting providers likely don't want to risk their payment processors.

I think I read that they were paying AWS upwards of $300,000/mo for services.

Definitely a much larger operation than I had previously though. A client that big should have had providers, globally, drooling over the idea of a big sale.

I suspect they went with the cheapest alternative that would get them back online. Having various services hosted across many different countries only helps with the freedom of information.

While I generally agree, I think the problem with that theory is the three letter agencies are allowed to operate with impunity outside of the U.S. They may be operating with impunity inside the U.S. already, but they are violating the law by doing so. Either way, real news about the world is about to become a whole lot more sparse than a few years ago.

I guess everyone is just going to proceed with this fraud.

Sue Apple about Twitter! https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/27/twitter-walkout-wileys-anti-semitic-tweets.html

Apple users only really have themselves to blame.

Lmao, I still have a bunch of tiktoks saved where the guy is filling out like 7 ballots for Biden. I wonder if he ever got caught.

The goyim angered the rulers.

Now it's time for payback.

The people who were rioting or doing other seriously illegal things without hiding their identity weren't being too smart.

But I understand the people who just walked in without covering their face. For those people, it was a simple act of civil disobedience. Generally people do show their face while engaging in acts of civil disobedience and accept the possibility of being arrested. No one says "LOL Rosa Parks, what an idiot. She should have worn a hat and wrapped a scarf around her face before she sat on the bus. Then she should have gotten off at a stop before they could arrest her. But the idiot got caught LOL".

If actual violence happens every now and then, that gives proof that the implicit threat is actually real. I think before this happened, politicians believed that conservatives were too committed to law and order to pose any real threat. Maybe now, instead of just cowing to the left's demands out of fear, decisions will be more balanced and they will weigh the potential reaction of both sides.

The left has had the advantage when demanding things for a while because people know the left can turn violent on a dime. Some of us on the right noticed that after the riots this year, corporations and politicians were suddenly trying very hard to prove how much they support BLM and the demand to defund the police was met in multiple cities. So it's no wonder that some Trump supporters decided that they ought to try rioting as well. Apparently it is effective.

Get yourself a full body neon green body suit. That'll take care of your identifying features.

Basically: Leave your phone at home or faraday bag that shit, don't talk to press, don't post selfies on social media, don't be uniquely identifiable (visible tattoos, etc).

Same way all the idiots in Seattle/Portland/etc got arrested when throwing molotovs at police, looting stores, setting shit on fire and being dumb. Many are just one virtue signaling Instagram post away from incrimination.

If you're going to do illegal stuff, probably best to not let yourself be easily tracked regardless of political belief. Weird concept.

He is mainly concerned with the speech of Russian citizens, especially if they are being critical of himself or the Russian government. If this website became very popular with anti-Putin activists in Russia, maybe he would take issue with it. But even then, he could just block it at the ISP level in Russia rather than try to get it shut down for everyone. That appears to be the main form of online censorship in Russia. https://news.engin.umich.edu/2019/11/how-russias-online-censorship-could-jeopardize-internet-freedom-worldwide/

I don't he think minds it much if people in other countries criticize Russia online. If anything, he might like it when Americans are excessively critical of Russia because that fuels division in the US. Liberals talk a lot about Russia being a threat and Conservatives are sick of hearing "Russia, Russia, Russia".

Russia's preference for instability in the US is part of what makes them a safe host for a mostly English speaking free speech site. They'd be happy if some kind of civil war and/or revolutionary war happens here, so they would be fine with Americans calling for violence against politicians or using racial slurs. That sort of speech is the main kind that has gotten free speech platforms in trouble so far.

That is true. I don't think Putin is a fan of free speech though.

Doesn't the first amendment exist?

Yeah, but too many companies are afraid to stand up for it because they don't want to deal with the backlash from a very vocal minority it appears.

From what I've seen of Parler it's just republican talking points and bible quotes. I've seen more vile content on reddit and Facebook.

yea but inciting actual violence defeats the purpose of a peaceful protest

It only gives Russia more control. Pretty weird. Doesn't the first amendment exist?

What a fucking waste of tax money.

Parler doesn't quite look like they're ready for prime time again. Their homepage is a bunch of quotes.

Why would you expect peaceful protests to work in that scenario though?

The point of peaceful protests usually is to say "hey, look at all these people who are going to vote out candidates who don't do what we want and vote in candidates that do what we want". But if voting itself is rigged, then that is not a proper threat.

Trump supporters already had multiple peaceful "stop the steal" type protests prior to the 6th and showed up in large numbers to Trump rallies that happened after election day.

Every peaceful protest has this implicit underlying threat, and it is part of why peaceful protests work. "Look at all of the people who will be pissed off and might cause disruption or do something violent if you don't listen to them".

If the first threat (voting people out) is not a serious threat anymore, then we are only left with the second threat as leverage. Now, there are ways to cause disruption without violence and that is more moral. Examples would be a refusal to work or pay taxes in masse. But it would be very difficult to get enough people to participate. People felt that it was very urgent to save the republic and that is why some were motivated to take more drastic actions.

Keep in mind, most of the people who stormed the capitol were engaging in an act of non-violent civil disobedience. There were people at the front who fought with police but the vast majority of the people who went in just walked in after the police had already stood down or retreated further into the building.

Sounds like better news for the users privacy than US hosting.

Quoted in the article:

Raise your hand if you understand the very significant impact this has on the ability to surveil and target insurrectionists who organize on Parler.

— Chris Vickery (@VickerySec)

I'd rather be spied on by Russia than the US government for sure. Russia has no interest in oppressing me and they're on the other side of the globe. I guess the worst thing Russia might want to do with the info is influence me with targeted political ads or something.

Not sure why they wouldn't just host it in the USA. Certainly there are datacenters or providers operating enough private rack space in one who'd take them on. They'd be a pretty big client and the media and the social just mob will forget about them eventually.