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Wahaha wrote
Reply to How do P2P, decentralized networks work when it comes to a user or individual wanting to remove their information from it? by Rambler
The entire point of decentralization is to make exactly this impossible. The promise is that no one even has the ability to memory hole anything.
The right to be forgotten isn't granted in the centralized world, either. On a technical level, all that happens is that what you posted gets hidden. Easily retrievable ten years down the line, if someone with access wanted to. The reasons for that are legal in nature, as far as I know. So if it's a small site without a bunch of lawyers in the background, you might have a chance to get your stuff actually deleted. Especially if the one who operates it likes the concept of privacy. But as a user, you have no way to verify either way.
Since decentralization redistributes power from a single source to everyone, in a decentralized network everyone has that ability. Of course, everyone would first have to agree on hiding the content in the first place.
I don't really get why people want this "right" anyway. It doesn't exist in real life. All your records are kept and all the people involved will remember. Imagine if Donald Trump would say "guys, I really want to be forgotten online, please delete everything mentioning my name". That would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?
Elbmar OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by dontvisitmyintentions in Scuttlebutt: An Off-Grid Social Network by Elbmar
True, I was aware of the leftist leanings of the developers and much of the community.
Still, it appears that if conservatives and free speech supporters decided to connect to each other, there isn't much that the rest of the network could do. They could make sure they're not connected to us, so we would have less visibility from their part of the network, but they wouldn't be able to break up the existing connections between right wing users. One of the worst things about de-platforming for the right has been that people end up losing connections to each other when a platform gets taken down.
They are partially just relying on deterrence right now, as that PDF mentioned.
SSB has never advertised itself as a free-speech platform though it does have many of those qualities at a technical level. Additionally designers have Rebellious Data LLC & Emmi Bevensee | 15 purported that they pursue a range of aesthetic choices aimed at attracting or repelling certaintypes of users. For instance, clients and the official webpage often use pastel colors, on the homepage there is a cartoon about an inter-racial queer love story that explains how scuttlebutt works, and many clients have implemented content warnings. Interviews stated this was all intentional to turn-away hateful users.
All that said, privacy is generally more important for the right than the left because the left is allowed to get away with more. So a different project that is not so leftist and more focused on privacy may be a better choice for conservatives to migrate to.
From the pdf:
Those guided more by right-wing ideologies in the P2P space tend to focus more on things like crypto-currencies and extremely privacy focused free-speech tools, which are more likely to be abused by hate-groups whether that is the intention of the developers or not. There are powerful positive implications in both P2P privacy tools and crypto-currencies, however it is important to acknowledge this potential alongside their built-in affordances.Those focused more on social-justice influenced liberatory tech tend to focus more on P2P tech geared towards connecting people and try to build in more protections to protect abuse.
Rambler OP wrote
Reply to comment by dontvisitmyintentions in How do P2P, decentralized networks work when it comes to a user or individual wanting to remove their information from it? by Rambler
That's kind of what I've gathered but hopefully I get hit with some knowledge. My understanding is only very basic of it. And I still hop on Zeronet / Aether and lurk. I know other, similar networks exist too.
I'm not shitting on those types of networks, they certainly have value that centralized networks do not. Not sure if there is a good 'in-between' where a user/individual still retains the ability to control the data they've published after clicking "submit".
dontvisitmyintentions wrote
Reply to How do P2P, decentralized networks work when it comes to a user or individual wanting to remove their information from it? by Rambler
Only if the users and nodes cooperate. So, no.
Elbmar wrote
I wonder if they're doing this because they're planning something that would make A LOT of people angry. I mean something that would make both sides want to storm the capitol. Maybe some kind of engineered economic catastrophe to accelerate "the great reset"? Maybe hyperinflation that would wipe out the savings of most average people but spare those who are in the know about what's coming?
I have no idea, but they keep making up BS excuses for why they need so many troops there.
dontvisitmyintentions wrote
Reply to Scuttlebutt: An Off-Grid Social Network by Elbmar
They uptalk: https://stealthisshow.com/s04e04/
They are plagued by nightmares of being adjacent to nazis: https://rebelliousdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/P2P-Hate-Report.pdf
They want a "community" instead of technology. And they don't want us.
Rambler wrote (edited )
Reply to Scuttlebutt: An Off-Grid Social Network by Elbmar
Looks cool, I'll check it out.
I may be one of the few who isn't super giddy about decentralized P2P networks though. They certainly have their benefits, but I also like the idea that things I say/post can also be deleted and not around for as long as other people/servers/nodes/whatever have it.
Maybe I'm just unfamiliar how networks like these work and centralized networks certainly have many flaws as well, but at least I could, if I wanted, axe this server and my data and everyone else's would die with it minus any sort of 3rd party archiving done by individuals (Ex: archive.is / waybackmachine, etc)
EDIT: Ah, requires you to run an app or program to access it. Not a normal website, similar to Aether. I'll hold off for now, but welcome newcomers to the market and anything that weens people off of traditional social media like Facebook/Twitter.
Elbmar OP wrote
Reply to Scuttlebutt: An Off-Grid Social Network by Elbmar
This is the website for the project
Rambler OP wrote
Reply to comment by zab_ in [Infographic] Which countries hate online advertisements the most? by Rambler
Good policy!
onion wrote
Reply to No whites allowed: Cornell charges students $1,800 for racially-segregated rock climbing class, frantically scrubs website when confronted by BasedPatriot
I get the point of calling attention to this sort of thing but anyone who sees a "no whites allowed" event and thinks "I should sign up for that" is probably someone I wouldn't rock climb with or hang out with in general. Now they are saying it's OK for whites to join the class too, but is that really a victory for white people? No self respecting white person would want to take "BIPOC Rock Climbing".
I respect black only, Mexican only, and Indian only, and white only groups because that is people getting together over a similar heritage and culture. But if a meeting of different races is specifically excluding one race, the main thing they have in common is a desire to not be around that race. I'm happy to oblige. I don't want to be around people who don't want to be around me.
It's unfortunate the tuition that whites pay goes partially to paying for classes like this but maybe rather than complain about discrimination coming back, a better response would be to just hold (or attempt to hold) alternative events. For example, spread flyers for a rock climbing club which is only for white people and their allies.
J0yI9YUX41Wx wrote
zab_ wrote
Reply to comment by Rambler in [Infographic] Which countries hate online advertisements the most? by Rambler
That's the spirit! :) FYI the MuWire policy on ads is described in detail here https://muwire.com/ads.txt
Rambler OP wrote
Reply to comment by zab_ in [Infographic] Which countries hate online advertisements the most? by Rambler
I block ads.
Ramble won't have ads. It's not really setup to serve them anyhow.
zab_ wrote
Hey Rambler, what is your position on ads in general? Are we going to see ads on this site some day?
MilkyPastel wrote
Reply to They Say Bitcoin is the Future and Gold Will be Worthless in 10 years.... Me in 10 Years. by Rambler
Gold is less traceable than bitcoin. Bitcoin is on it's way out and gold will forever remain fairly stable.
BlackWinnerYoshi wrote
Reply to comment by Rambler in [Infographic] Which countries hate online advertisements the most? by Rambler
I meant the direct link, not just the logo of Surfshark itself.
Rambler OP wrote
Reply to comment by BlackWinnerYoshi in [Infographic] Which countries hate online advertisements the most? by Rambler
It's in the image, but good point.
LnWpxtqPEXyDjAH9rs27 OP wrote
Reply to comment by BlackWinnerYoshi in Directory of services that send encrypted and/or signed E-mail notifications by LnWpxtqPEXyDjAH9rs27
I was just asking if there was a nonblog page. Anyways, I added it.
BlackWinnerYoshi wrote
You forgot to mention the source is https://surfshark.com/global-ad-blocking
BlackWinnerYoshi wrote
I thought Poland hated online advertising the most, but no, they're a fucking average compared to France. Oh well.
BlackWinnerYoshi wrote
Reply to Thoughts on Starlink (in regards to privacy) by Rambler
TL;DR: in regards to privacy, Starlink is... not so great.
Well, let's see what Starlink's situation is, in regards to privacy:
- Tor support - I didn't actually order Starlink, but it looks like it doesn't block Tor when I just visit the site.
- Monero acceptance - I guess it doesn't support cryptocurrency, as per Starlink Pre-Order Agreement (clear net only), paragraph two, point three.
- No personal data required for registration - I don't know where to register (I guess I would need to purchase Starlink to see), but if one of the recovery methods (clear net only) is by phone, that's already suspicious.
- Compatibility with established standards - this could apply because of built-in VPN support (OpenVPN or possibly WireGuard) and encryption of e-mails you get (PGP). In case of e-mail encryption, there's no mention of it, and in case of VPN, there's also no mention of it, and might possibly be disallowed by SpaceX.
- No Cloudflare - it looks like there's no Clownflare or some other MITM.
- As little downtime as possible - not a privacy issue, but the service actually has to be usable. Since SpaceX is so massive, I doubt downtimes are much of a problem.
So I guess just by looking at those six points, it's kind of average. But of course, this alone only tells the minimum, so let's see the privacy policy (clear net only):
- IP addresses - paragraph one, points six to seven, mention them, but they don't mention for how long the information is stored, only as to why they store them in paragraph two, point three, analytics being the reason.
- Content data - paragraph two, point one, letter five, might suggest they could watch things like messages, e-mails, search queries, to detect "fraud".
- System info - paragraph one, point six, mentions that operating system and platform, browser type and version, time zone setting and location, are collected.
- Metadata - I think that the data collected as per paragraph one, point seven, might apply to metadata.
- Interaction data - paragraph one, point six, also mentions that the interaction with their services is collected.
- Third party sharing - paragraph three, mentions that your data will be shared to their "affiliates", government, and organizations involved in business transfers.
Well, that already worsens the situation with Starlink. What about the history of SpaceX? Are they hiding skeletons in their closet? I have no idea, I would have to dig really deeply to find out. And I don't want to do that/
BlackWinnerYoshi wrote
Reply to comment by LnWpxtqPEXyDjAH9rs27 in Directory of services that send encrypted and/or signed E-mail notifications by LnWpxtqPEXyDjAH9rs27
I don't know what do you not understand, it's just that having a PGP key added to your account not only makes the notifications encrypted, but they can also remove 2FA if you send a message about that signed with your PGP key. That's all.
Wahaha wrote
All this graph tells me is that that the French are too stupid to install it successfully in one go.
Wahaha OP wrote
Reply to comment by Kalchaya in "I'm a scientist, you can trust me" by Wahaha
Basically, if it's used to sell you something, you should be suspicious.
dontvisitmyintentions wrote
Reply to comment by Rambler in How do P2P, decentralized networks work when it comes to a user or individual wanting to remove their information from it? by Rambler
Decentralization by means of replication eliminates the power to control that data entirely, in exchange for dissemination. The way to distance yourself from your posts is the same as on an image board: create a new pseudonymous persona, or maintain no persona at all.
In federated systems, nodes rely less on local stores, so deleting data from a node may work better. It helps make Mastodon/Pleroma confusing and fragmented because instances capriciously block other nodes and users without any signal that's happening. The result is users subscribe to multiple nodes lest their conversions be mangled by getting muted by third parties.
Federated systems could be more friendly and work with users' idea of privacy, but that requires them not to abuse the powers which they abuse now. There's no future for it in wide-spread society, and any smaller group you trust to not abuse it, you can also trust to not abuse your posts.