Posted by Rambler in Ramble (edited )

Say what you want about Voat, but it was a good platform of free speech and uncensored discussion. I lurked occasionally over the years but never posted. It looks like they'll be turning the lights off soon.

If any members here want to suggest ramble, that is fine. Anyone can create a forum here for whatever they see fit, and any user who doesn't wish to see content from said forum(s) are able to easily block them and carry on without knowing they exist.

I may not always agree with the content but I do agree with the idea of free speech. They have some great and active communities for everything from technology to music to video games to memes and it goes without saying that I'll welcome Voat refugees here.

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smooth_jazz wrote

At least notabug and dread are still alive. And ramble, but i don't think it's the same as the others. It's not as bad as reddit though.

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RichardButte wrote

Voat was doomed the second their Azure cheapo licence ran out. Run a absolute free speech site on a super expensive system without long term funding plans?

Failure to plan is planning to fail, and here we are.

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Wahaha wrote

I wasn't planning on becoming a Voat refugee, since I came to this place before Voat decided to shut down, but I guess now, I am. Can I call people niggerfaggots around here, too, or are people all classy over here?

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Rambler OP wrote (edited )

I'd say we're classy (sticks pinky out when slamming this Bang) , but the community dictates what they want to see and will vote on comments accordingly.

I guess just know your audience. In a /f/privacy thread? May not go over as well there as it would in /f/DarkMemes or a forum you or another user create for a topic of your choice.

I don't care though. Just know that every forum has their own mods so try to respect their wishes.

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Rambler OP wrote

It's possible. It had been canned once before when it was hosted in Germany.

I don't know much about the guy or the site outside of being a casual lurker since it started, but I wish him luck.

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Rambler OP wrote

BTC isn't exactly anonymous. If he's ever posted a BTC address publicly, you can then just sort of follow the transactions around even though you may never know the true owner of one address to another.

Does he mention what his operating costs were or what sort of server setup he was rocking? Voat is/was a lot larger than I imagined, I've seen numbers stating hundreds of thousands of users. I'd imagine scaling (especially with whatever BS Microsoft licensing requirements would be) would get quite costly, but well within his ability if that rumor was true.

What was the end game with Voat anyhow? I see where they had previously had an angel investor and some tech money coming in, which isn't bad in it's own, but usually outside funding and investments isn't done based on charity because the guy with the money supports your platform. They usually seek a return of some sort...

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Wahaha wrote

There was a BTC address posted publicly and some goats over there did some digging providing conflicting information. I don't know much about bitcoin so I never ventured out to research deeper into this.

But it's fair to say money wasn't the issue. What I found most credible is that the admin was in a position of either shutting down or compromising the place and went for the shut down. Of course, since the canary died ages ago, lots of goats think the place was compromised anyway. If you subscribe to that the most credible thing becomes that the site served it's use.

I'm not especially unhappy, since it got kinda stale over the years, anyway. All the goats that thought the place was compromised went away so the remaining folks dispersing around poal, notabug and other similar places will likely stir things up in those places and maybe make things interesting again. At least I hope so.

The great thing about Voat wasn't that people called OP a niggerfaggot, but that bullshit got caught regularly and that sources to data was provided. Basically, people over there weren't sheep, but goats.

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Wahaha wrote (edited )

I'm not sure if anything ever came of it, but I remember years back that there was some development effort put in to switch over to free software. Possibly related to https://preview.voat.co/ which is basically a test version.

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Rambler OP wrote

Gotcha. Well, I can't blame him for turning the lights off it it's to protect the users. I know if that was the case he wouldn't be able to come out and say that is why, or at least, I don't think he'd be able to.

I'm not familiar enough with the history to really pass judgement either way. I just know a lot of people are going to miss a place they enjoyed for years. I always try to give the benefit of doubt to people, so hopefully it's for a good reason if it's not financially related. Or maybe it's for a horrible reason. We may never know.

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MrBlack wrote

Looks like they're gone already. I thought they were going to wait until Christmas.

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Jogger wrote

I came here from Voat... Not sure where all the other goats went. I'll give this a try.

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Rambler OP wrote

Seems like some went to Aether. Haven't seen many refugees here, but they're welcome. Hope you enjoy your stay.

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Rambler OP wrote

Looks like they're gone already. I thought they were going to wait until Christmas.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

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