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Wahaha wrote

The effort was creating ungoogled-chromium. I'm on a semi-private searx instance that works well, mostly.

I guess I'd rather use Bing than DDG. At least Microsoft doesn't earn money by selling my information, as far as I know.

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BlackWinnerYoshi wrote

TL;DR: yes, ungoogled-chromium was a pain to create, but IDK why would you use Bing/Yahoo directly instead of using DuckDuckGo as a middleman.


Ah, creating ungoogled-chromium. It was a pain, and while Eloston (I guess that's their name?) is a nice and skilled guy, the Chromium codebase is massive, so I feel like this might not be long until ungoogled-chromium dies, and that's sad because I won't really have any good web browser choices:

  • GNU IceCat - it's freetardist, so no Flash Player, and there's the annoying LibreJS add-on. Also, it still suffers from Firefox's BS, like the bad UI, slow speed, barely any configuration, depreciated XUL add-ons, etc.
  • Pale Moon - has an add-on blocklist, enables WebAssembly by default, has spyware by default, etc.
  • Otter Browser - uses QtWebEngine, which is controlled by Goolag, and it doesn't support add-ons

I think the only good browser is Web Browser, but, well, it turns out the compiling process for Windoze (which I might be still forced to use) has been removed, so that's a problem.

Also, why would you use Bing directly instead of through a proxy like DuckDuckGo? (I mean, it could fit into the definition of a proxy server - a server that is a middleman between the user and the other server) Or Yahoo, for that matter, since both are used when searching with DuckDuckGo? In this case, I would rather proxy than to directly give data to some big corpo, but okay.

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Wahaha wrote

Flash died at the beginning of 2021. Unless you put lots of effort in, it won't work in any browser anymore.

I trust Microsoft more than I trust DDG, which is why I have no problem using Bing directly. And the reason I trust Microsoft is because I understand how they make money. I don't use Bing, I use searx. But I'd use Bing over DDG.

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BlackWinnerYoshi wrote

I actually don't think you need to put a lot of effort in order to make Flash usable in a browser. Just get Adobe Flash 32.0.0.363 from Internet Archive (clear net only) and Basilisk Browser (clear net only). Sure, Adobe made Flash dead since 12 January 2021, Mozilla will fully kill Flash after 7 September 2021, Google made Flash dead since 19 January 2021, Microsoft released a Flash-killing update on 18 February 2021, Apple was the earliest to kill Flash on 16 September 2020, so using Flash has been made more difficult, but it's still not impossible!

And actually, if you know how Microsoft earns money, then I guess it's fine?

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