Should be interesting to see how things continue after dark.

Some live streams:

https://dlive.tv/PortlandAndy and https://dlive.tv/AustinZone

If there are other live streams, feel free to share. Regardless of how you feel about this group, we never saw Antifa/BLM take it to this level.

This shit is probably going to kill the modern republican party.

This shit is probably going to kill the modern republican party.

Not a bad thing in my opinion. Honestly, anything that pushes people away from the two-party system is a good thing in my book.

Multi-party systems ain't better either. There's just even more quarrelling. And backstabbing, since various parties have to work together, but who is working together will change. My country works like that. In the end, there are only two opposing viewpoints, too, but they are spread around a dozen or so parties and half of them will end up participating in the quarrelling. At the end, nothing useful is accomplished, but things get worse every year.

Best approach would be to just split the country apart into components instead of having everyone constantly argue with each other. If you can break it down to two viewpoints, just split the country in two, then everyone can do what they think is best.

The woman who was shot has died: https://www.dailywire.com/news/woman-shot-at-united-states-capitol-has-died

I was watching the clips posted on quarentinedcoof twitter this morning. Today was fucking nuts.

I feel that it will only get crazier. The right is realizing that the police and national guard will follow orders regardless if you have a thin blue line flag or not, haha. Lot of, "But we supported you for 8 months" and "What about your oath!?" screams.

Eight months of protests and riots and destruction of private property and businesses from one side of the political scale and not deaths at the hands of law enforcement. Today a female Air Force Veteran was shot and killed by Capitol Police. Will be interesting to see how things go leading up to the inauguration, especially now that there is a death involved. I'd imagine that if Seattle police had shot and killed a CHAZ/CHOP occupant that ti would have fueled a violent response as a reaction, so, we'll see I guess.

I'm just glad I'm far the fuck away from cities. Today I saw some crazy shit in DC, and then later in Washington state when they stormed the Governor's mansion there.

Had to turn the streams off so I could focus on some work I'm trying to get done but still find myself refreshing some sites for some breaking news.

I live barely outside of DC we had a curfew. Its amazing to see grown men and woman of this country have a tempure tantrum just because their guy didnt win. So much so they stormed the capitol building with weapons, killed someone, injured many many police, and put thousands of lives in danger. I have a close friend who's father works in the capitol and he wasnt answering his phone, she was scared half to death. Thankfully he's ok. And hopefully the united states invested enough in privacy infringing technologies to arrest these fuckers.

I'm all for getting rid of the two party system.

it's not a two party system, the democrats and republicans are the same party in practice.

Yea. We support giant corporation vs. we support giant corporations and like to say BLM.

Most of them didn't do it simply because their guy didn't win. It's because they believe the election was illegitimate. If Trump won this election and you sincerely believed that it was due to fraud, would you consider it unjustified for people to storm the capitol?

yes. peaceful protests are what should be done

Why would you expect peaceful protests to work in that scenario though?

The point of peaceful protests usually is to say "hey, look at all these people who are going to vote out candidates who don't do what we want and vote in candidates that do what we want". But if voting itself is rigged, then that is not a proper threat.

Trump supporters already had multiple peaceful "stop the steal" type protests prior to the 6th and showed up in large numbers to Trump rallies that happened after election day.

Every peaceful protest has this implicit underlying threat, and it is part of why peaceful protests work. "Look at all of the people who will be pissed off and might cause disruption or do something violent if you don't listen to them".

If the first threat (voting people out) is not a serious threat anymore, then we are only left with the second threat as leverage. Now, there are ways to cause disruption without violence and that is more moral. Examples would be a refusal to work or pay taxes in masse. But it would be very difficult to get enough people to participate. People felt that it was very urgent to save the republic and that is why some were motivated to take more drastic actions.

Keep in mind, most of the people who stormed the capitol were engaging in an act of non-violent civil disobedience. There were people at the front who fought with police but the vast majority of the people who went in just walked in after the police had already stood down or retreated further into the building.

yea but inciting actual violence defeats the purpose of a peaceful protest

If actual violence happens every now and then, that gives proof that the implicit threat is actually real. I think before this happened, politicians believed that conservatives were too committed to law and order to pose any real threat. Maybe now, instead of just cowing to the left's demands out of fear, decisions will be more balanced and they will weigh the potential reaction of both sides.

The left has had the advantage when demanding things for a while because people know the left can turn violent on a dime. Some of us on the right noticed that after the riots this year, corporations and politicians were suddenly trying very hard to prove how much they support BLM and the demand to defund the police was met in multiple cities. So it's no wonder that some Trump supporters decided that they ought to try rioting as well. Apparently it is effective.