Posted by raincoat in ramble

Basically, to grow Ramble, existing users could invite specific people instead of advertising broadly. Quality > quantity

Since registration needs to be turned off right now anyways because of abuse, to grow the user base current users of the site could invite specific quality people from other sites, maybe with invite codes or by just sharing a secret date that registration opens. Those invited people can invite others and at some point we might have enough people that registration can be open to everyone again because there will be more people coming on the site regularly and moderating or reporting illegal activity. Invites aren’t great for the privacy of either the inviter or invitee but could be used in the beginning to get a really good user base that will attract more quality users after the forum is opened up.

For a free speech site to really change society, it needs to have an influence on the thinking of at least some people who have high positions in society, such as CEOs, business leaders, as well as high earners who can fund solutions, people with the technical skills to implement solutions, academics who can influence the culture in universities etc. These tend to be smarter than average people who are turned off of a lot of the content on, for example, Bitchute or the .win forums. They usually don't have time or interest in sifting though nonsense to find the good content. I’m not saying to turn this into some kind of Mensa circlejerk, but it’s good for smart people to have uncensored forums to get info and ideas in front of other smart people for critique and discussion, without the space being flooded by theories about Q, black eyed children, demonic alien parasites etc.

r/conspiracy on Reddit has a lot of good content and is one of the only major spaces left for relatively free speech on Reddit, but there are a lot of gullible people there too. Occasionally I see users on r/conspiracy who stand out as critical thinkers who are not just parroting the latest thing from Stew Peters or Charlie Ward. Sometimes they only have a few upvotes because most people have attention spans too short to read through what they have to say. So those are the kinds of people I would want to invite. I sometimes save interesting Reddit posts I come across so I could go through them and invite some people. Other people might want to invite good posters from other forums they go to. It could be people from Linux forums, programming forums, investing forums, or whatever. I think the main thing is to not invite too many users from other small free speech platforms, so that other free speech platforms are not made worse by siphoning away the best users.

Aside from schizo theories like “Sodomy taught by Dracos to Nazis as Atlantis art to infuse LGBTPB demon spirits to create child sex slave alters” (that's a real Bitchute video description), another issue on certain free speech sites, though some consider this a feature, is that some sites (like voat) are echo chambers that drive the vast majority of people away. To be clear, I don't think people should self censor and still think all speech should be allowed here, but as long as we're inviting a variety of people from different sites, it won't become an echo chamber and “I wish the holocaust actually happened” type posts will not be frequent enough to drive potential users away. The main practical precaution, if inviting leftists, would be to avoid inviting people who are pro-censorship since they might try to ruin the website any way they can.



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Wahaha wrote

I cannot think of anyone that I would invite, though.


raincoat OP wrote

I can only think of one person off the top of my head, but for me it would be easy to find more since I have a reddit account where I save interesting posts. If you go on other forums, you could just keep the idea in the back of your mind when reading and if there's someone who's really knowledgeable about a subject or has interesting ideas or research, you could invite them or make a note of their username to invite later. Like I said, it doesn't have to be a strict Mensa thing. The main caution is to avoid inviting NPCs from either the left or the right.


Rambler wrote

I haven't forgotten about this place, though I do have regret that my focus being temporarily shifted elsewhere has negatively impacted RAMBLE. I've got a lot going on both in terms of my career and personal life.

I'm going to try to manage and balance my time better. I'd like to shift things back into gear here.

/u/raincoat , thanks for this post. Glad to see it.


raincoat OP wrote

I get it. It’s really easy for tasks, errands etc. to pile up during times like that. Sometimes you have to block out almost everything except the most important and urgent tasks (and maybe hire or get help for some tasks). Don’t worry too much about how the site is doing. The functionality is good. I think most people report bugs so you are aware of them, not to put pressure. And feature requests are just ideas. The site has a lot of potential even with no new features. Guessing it might just need around 15 or 20 more users to really start taking off. An invite system could outsource the work of promoting the site, but it makes sense to postpone any coding and new users coming to the site until you’re less busy. Invite-only could reduce the regular bad actors but probably not the ones who emit a mysterious light.


Rambler wrote

Well, there is still the idea of rebranding to which is a domain I own that I'd like to put to use and I think is a better 'fit' for what I really wanted this site to be.

The thing about this site is the software that runs it is near prohibitively difficult to work with and is developed by someone who is completely against the idea of this site using her software. (It's open source and public: )

My coding skills are, well, pretty non-existent. Outside of some basic PHP and bash scripting you won't see anything created from scratch by me. And trust me, I've gone through the entire fleet of available projects found of github / gitlab as well over the last few months.

Unfortunately, anything like feature requests are just out of the picture at this time. If someone is actually capable of the task and wishes to implement some changes, I'll happily sponsor an adequate VPS for a non-public RAMBLE dev site.

Definitely a lot of unmet potential here. I'd like to keep the site more geared privacy and technology, but have it still be a source of news and discussion, even if it's controversial.


raincoat OP wrote

I think the domain is really memorable. The “pw” makes me think of password, which fits since a lot of the discussion here is security related. OTR can stand for a lot of things. I’m guessing you might be thinking of “off the record” but others might see a url like as just a series of randomly picked letters and not be able to remember it.

IMO it doesn’t make sense to make code open source and then get mad when people use it. Maybe she would feel better about it if you put something like “built with postmill” at the bottom of the page and put a link to the postmill repo. I don’t know why she’s mad though. Maybe after the community has grown more, some users who have a lot of experience with PHP can take a thorough look at the project and make the judgment call about whether it would be easier to continue with the postmill code or make something from scratch.

I think it’s good to have plenty of tech and privacy content. A lot of crazy tech related things are going to happen in the coming years. I think CBDC is the most urgent danger but there are also advances in AI, robots, gene editing, brain chips etc. that could be used in harmful ways by people in power so it will be important for there to be private censorship free spaces where people who are knowledgeable about technology can talk about these things.

If the site does evolve into something more broad, people can still follow the tech forums though. I think one disadvantage if it is too technology focused is that the site could miss out on some really interesting users. For example, a historian could come across the site or be invited to it and then after seeing the front page full of computer and privacy related links, feel like it isn’t the right site for them. I think some of the most interesting conversations happen when people from different fields and backgrounds come together to talk. For example, in response to some news article someone posts about the war in Ukraine, a historian, an economist, and a veteran discuss it in the comments. That’s probably going to be more interesting than replies from a few security researchers and Linux nerds. Another example, a programmer makes a post talking about a stock trading bot that he wrote. He might appreciate input from someone who works in finance or trading.


smartypants wrote

100% correct about :

others might see a url like as just a series of randomly picked letters and not be able to remember it. is better and in my mind memorized and pronounceable in phone calls to others if need be

I WISH THIS SITE WAS BIGGER but also same IQ level as it has now

Gigantic free speech upvote-topic forums like suffer by being invaded by paid Leftist shills meant to slow its growth, and now invaded by countless Fed agents to "reduce White Free Speech radicalization social forums"


That site is DESIRED DEAD by leftist Jews : (JIDF/ MOSSAD/ ADL/ SPLC/ ShareBlue)

One wants an accidental honeypot working, the other jews listed desire all Whites fragmented and disenchanted on any site offering news.

Nearly 20% there this month, by comment action, in June 2022 are JIDF/ MOSSAD/ ADL/ SPLC/ ShareBlue/ CIA/ NSA/ NRO/ FBI/ DIA/ USDOJ/ USSS/ State Dept INR/ USAFISR/ ATF/ DOE/ DHS/ TFI/ ONSI/ DGB/ NSF/ USPS etc !

One user minimum from EACH of the above. NSF Too? Yes, $ millions even for NSF to surf :

USPS too? Yes not just millions for NSF, but even the USPS monitors White Hate on social sites to allow access of FBI/NSA databases:

DHS DGB? New May 2022 US gov funded group with FBI and NSA data access to combat online Free Speech Racist 'Jew Naming' DHS's DGB - Disinformation Governance Bureau !

All I said above is true.

And now 9 months ago another agency on US Soil, 30 paid Jew shills looking for "Jew Hate" using US Gov DHS funding , and logging into our site :

September 27, 2021 : Jews Open well funded 24/7 Nationwide Antisemitism™ Command Center To Monitor 'Jew Hate'™ On American web sites ! Funded by US DHS and Jews from 'Secure Community Network'. :

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As many keep stating : Free Speech "hate thought" sites like that one, are highly infested (and rising) by no less than millions of dollars a month, funded almost 100% by Jews , from these seven primary groups :

Those seven are proven. Paid leftist Democrats infest free speech sites.

Paid Leftist contractors infest that site for being "Free Speech hate thought"!

Paid Leftist contractors drop in a few percent of innocuous ((())) remarks to blend in and subvert better.

Paid Leftist contractors drop in NatSoc imagery posts to blend in and subvert better.

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Billions of dollars are used to combat conservatives online. 18 billion MORE added to open all formerly White nations by just ONE of many jewish billionaires that Fund "ShareBlue" army of contractors.

George Soros Transfers $18 Billion to His Foundation:

George Soros transfers $18 billion to his liberal philanthropic foundation:

billions to subvert USA (read up on 100 jewish leftist political organizations his money funds). Millions of it is used specifically to attack free speech web sites, and is proven.

ShareBlue paid jew leftists are real. ShareBlue (funded by jew billionaires) changes its name every couple years, : Blue Nation Review , ShareBlue media, American Independent, True Blue Media.

They infest all sites where White people might congregate :


Read all of that link :

That well funded group is what took over "The_Donald" ( a second time.

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2021 : Another leftist group!
Dr Stephane Baele runs ANOTHER startup of Leftists are aggressively trying to Subvert 4Chan and The_Donald ( as they boast in this 2021 paper on using gibberish attacks :

OMG! THEY BRAG that they invade, like the other Jewish orgs do!

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See a theme? Its paid Leftists and Feds united to destroy and slow down any Free Speech social forums in 2022.

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I Love this site and wish it had more content but you should be honored that that the real TallestSkil checks in now and then, a free speech advocate from from 7.9 YEARS AGO on many social forums, and myself, a similar Free Speech motivated advocate, but with no normal steady online name or specific primary persona.

TRUE FREE SPEECH ADVOCATES hope to thrive, and If you want, I could shill for it more , and my shilling brought TallestSkil once, but my shill posts on other social sites get admin deleted. If I list the following, the list gets shoahed on ( aka ) shoahed! : (legible nondeletable 4chan!) (current 2020 8Chan, tor onion link : jthnx5wyvjvzsxtu.onion) (pol news, q news) (never censors legal speech) (a free speech site) (a new free speech site) (Pol) ( / use to relocate it after a shoah [http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/] (emergency tor onion for dailystormer) [server down Oct 2020, up again] (popular but censors speech often : (small and new) (2020 8Chan Q stuff, more legible) (also called , New Feb 26th 2021 Voat clone, infested with paid Jew shills) (great! based and awesome younger crowd) (tiny new 2022) (claims to be free speech, CENSORS most discussions of jews, race IQ, etc) (Q related) (claims to never censor facts nor violent thoughts) (deleted Patrick Little and lied, deletes legal speech) (censors, but not as bad as reddit) (censors, but not as bad as reddit) (tame conservative memes) (new, censors jew naming) (new, might soon censor jew naming) (no anonymous browsing) (no anonymous browsing)

I avoided listing about 8 good actual real White Power or NatSoc sites, not because some are honeypots, but because they are fed infested and used as de facto honeypots to trick young males under age 22 into annual fed "perp walks" in front of news cameras. The younger people are unaware of psyop tactics used by feds.

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Anyways, as you can see, there are VERY VERY VERY few web sites that allow real uncensored discussion of COVID-19 vaccine papers, DNA IQ of Africans, Geopolitical frauds, Holocaust facts, crime demographics papers, etc. It would be great to see rise up to the status of a major free speech site if it can withstand relentless attacks by paid Leftist shills.

For now, at least it has vocaloid news and privacy tech news, and cerebral topics.

TL/DR: Not enough White Terrorists exist on the Internet, so the Feds have to fabricate them


raincoat OP wrote

I can see more free speech sites moving to an invite system in the future as a defense against bots, feds, shills etc.

It was encouraging to see from this link you posted that they acknowledge the futility of shutting down sites and are having to come up with new tactics.

These communities simply migrate to new or dormant chans – all implement the same HTML structure and are very easy to replicate

One such tactic would aim at gradually making these boards less interesting for their users. One way to achieve this would be to regularly post content that looks genuine (using the right language, imagery, etc.) yet is meaningless – this would dilute the message of these boards and make their threads uninteresting, thereby reducing their attractiveness and sense of community.

Recent developments in artificial intelligence enabling researchers to generate credible extremist sentences make such a tactic cheap and easy to implement”

I had suspected that this was going on a lot but it was still interesting to see it officially described as a solution to the futility of shutting down forums. Agree that the intelligence of the current user base is a plus, especially since AI generated posts are a major tactic that they are now using to suppress communities. Bot accounts can blend in on some sites but would eventually stick out on a forum that has more in depth discussions.

Not a fan of the site but Kiwifarms seems pretty good for free speech. Might want to add that one to your list.

I think ramble could go under the radar, or at least be low priority for leftist groups for a long time if posts about race and jews continue to be a relatively small percentage of the content. With a broad user base that will be the case naturally without anyone self censoring.


smartypants wrote (fediverse)?

I will remember to add , but some claim it is a brigading stalking forum of sorts. (drama) , but it is allegedly Free Speech and thus should be listed. seems focused sometimes on discussing drama on kiwifarms, such as in this long thread:

Registration was open yesterday, and might still be, if i have time I'll check out kiwifarms


raincoat OP wrote

some claim it is a brigading stalking forum of sorts.

Yep. That's why I'm not a fan of the site. I think the people there who obsess over harassing "lolcows" are the real lolcows. Some other sections of the site seem alright though. I hear there is more of a mix of left and right leaning people than other free speech forums.