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BlackWinnerYoshi wrote

No, you're the one who's stupid. systemdestroy is used purely for big corpos to take over Linux, which is unacceptable if we want a free operating system. Please read arguments against systemd (clear net only) and stop trying to push us into using a thing that only does harm and endangers Linux. Really, you can live your entire life with SysV, for example. It doesn't try to harm you.

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smartypants wrote (edited )

nothing systemd does makes linusx less free, or corporate owned.

watch the video link i offered and learn something.

you sound deranged and not educated on why systemd won and is now in all linux.

your one dead link is practically a parody of itself based on emotion, not modern facts.

That archive of a dead site is a list of emotional screeching about bugs.

bugs long since patched.

it also includes "Unprofessionalism" as the reason.

Unprofessionalism?

What the ever loving fuck?

Did you even read that link? If so, tell me a reason all those operating systems made a mistake in switching to Apple's launchd (systemd).. i bet you cant find a logical reason that stands up.

Ignorance of fundamental operating system concepts?

laughable linked examples.

in fact the link does NOT cover RAID at all :

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028514.html

That example only discusses turning off journal control of a binary log file. And everything discussed is 100% factual by Lennart Poettering, but not the means or meachanisms entirely. For example a journalled atomic file system only protects VOLUME BITMAP and FILE SEGMENT SPANS and STATE OF FILE... not CONTENTS of data. FS_NOCOW on or off has no relevance on CONTENTS of a crashed log other than its possible new spans, and even then, those, if not flushed, would not be on disk anyways, and as Lennart Poettering stated... it uses its own sanity checksums to detect corrupt logs and to restart a missing log :

https://systemd-devel.freedesktop.narkive.com/lCPb8KVG/announce-systemd-219

Anyways that section has NOTHING to do with RAID.

Launchd/SYSTEMD won the battle, and is now 98% of all linux servers and desktops

98% of linux servers and desktops use the modern and wonderful launchd, and boot far faster as a side-effect.

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BlackWinnerYoshi wrote

Hmm yes, totally not a post showing that you're just an angry Linux fanboy trying to defend something that hurts you.

systemdestroy DOES make Linux less free because you're dealing with big corpo software, and it DOES make Linux owned by big corpo because init systems plays an important part to do anything.

No, I won't click the video to "learn". I'm not even going to talk about the fact that you didn't use Invidious as the proxy for NotYourTube.

Also, I'm educated, that's why I know the reason behind systemdestroy being the most used init system: it's because this is a big corpo software. It takes no effort for a big corpo to make something that becomes a dependency for 99% of things to then start harming it and therefore harming the things it has a dependency for.

Also, yes, that Without Systemd site is dead. However, there is an archival link from Wayback Machine, which, GUESS WHAT, allows archiving websites to cite them in future, even if the original site is long dead, so your "argument" doesn't make sense. Also, no, it's not written emotionally, the original author, whoever that was, written this wiki in good faith.

Also, you know, even if the bugs were fixed...

...there are other things that technically aren't bugs, but they still make your life inconvenient. Of course, you being a Linux fanboy, and probably even a freetard, makes you not notice those things, even though you should.

Also, unprofessionalism is actually a valid point; why would you say that the Journal File Format is stable since 26, but then take it back on version 44?

Doesn't it work like that?

Does it, freetard?

Yes, I did read that link. And yes, those launchd operating systems did make a mistake: switching to launchd, which is an init system owned by Apple, the big corpo. Seriously, every open source software owned by a big corpo has problems such as:

Kay Sievers and Lennart Poettering often have the same response style to criticisms as the GNOME developers [read other Red Hat developers] — go away, you’re clueless, we know better than you, and besides, we have commit privs and you don’t, so go away.

Not understanding computers 101?

Absolutely. I'm laughing at you.

Also, maybe that link doesn't mention RAID, but do you know what it mentions? Checksums.

systemd might have won by fucking our arses, however, me and other people that actually think will go against it by using and recommending Linux distributions that don't use systemd, such as Salix OS

Linux servers/desktops might use systemd, but the faster booting is just the placebo effect, which is caused by a disease you have: freetardism.

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