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abralelie OP wrote

Reply to comment by Wahaha in Fact vs. fake – why don’t we trust science any more? | DW Documentary by abralelie

In actuality science isn't so complicated that only some "scientists" can understand it and the public doesn't really need the media playing "translator" to what "scientists" said.

Yeah, I have to disagree there. Why do you think people require multiple years, sometimes even decades, to study stuff? The average person simply doesn't have the necessary knowledge and understanding of the subject matter to grasp what's happening in a scientific paper. Nobody's an expert in everything.

Have you tried reading the papers published in recognized journals? They are by no means trivial and sometimes even if the article is written in an understandable manner and seems plausible, the wrong statistical methods could've been chosen, the experiments may have been setup incorrectly, or a bunch of other stuff could've happened that wasn't accounted for - or explicitly accounted for but hidden to achieve a certain result.

Doesn't stop NPCs from gobbling up what the media peddles about science as fact. Like the stupid climate change thing, which is full of holes if you look at the actual data. It's just that the media has repeated this bullshit over decades again and again, that by now lots of people actually believe in man made climate change.

Have you actually looked at the data yourself? And where did you find that data? Additionally, are you a climatologist / do you think you are better equipped than a climatologist to interpret the data?

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Wahaha wrote

The difficult part is figuring things out. You'd be amazed how easy stuff is once someone else has figured it all out. Scientific papers mostly are written to be obtuse on purpose. But they don't matter. The data the paper is based on matters.

Scientific papers remind me of translators that want to be clever in their subs. I watch a lot of foreign language stuff and there have been occasions, when I was understanding the original language that I don't actually speak for a sentence, but couldn't make sense of the English subtitles under it.

Science really isn't that hard. There's just some gatekeeping involved, but once you see past the bullshit, it's fairly simple. And yes, I trust myself more than journalists to understand the underlying data.

As for climate stuff, I haven't found any data that paints the picture the media is selling. I keep asking for data when the topic comes up, but no one has been able to provide anything so far proving that humans influence the climate. Yeah, temperatures go up (global warming), but then not consistently, so the buzz word got changed, but that's just climate in general. Some glaciers have been melting for hundreds of years and I've also heard that we are at the end of an Ice Age. Earth had a couple of those before humans even were around. And yeah, when they end things tend to get warmer.

By the way, did you hear what happened to the ozone hole? This was all over the media some twenty odd years ago with the goal to ban something and then they did and everyone just stopped talking about it. I'm pretty sure it's still there, though. But I guess no one wants to use it's existence to ban something anymore.

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