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Rambler said () (edited )

Meh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://images2.imgbox.com/34/4a/MYcBuAO4_o.jpeg

They can have their site, we can have ours. Not sure why it warrants discussion. The only thing noteworthy enough in their discussion that I want to touch base on is the mention of Postmill. Yes, we're using Postmill to power this site. It's open source. The creator and community behind Postmill are not happy that this site uses their software so it seemed sort of respectful to not advertise directly that this site is powered by it, even though that information can easily be found elsewhere on this site. If emma wants me broadcast proudly that this site is powered by her software, I'll be happy to oblige.

This site is available for people on the far right to use. It's available for people on the far left to use. It's available for people in the middle to use. People can use it or not use it, that's freedom of choice. It's not like there aren't a ton of reddit-like sites in existence to choose from already. This site is just yet another option.

EDIT: Phrasing

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sitefights OP said ()

I want to watch fights for the throne of reddit-like sites between RAMBLE and lemmy, just for my fun! RAMBLE to be available for good people more and more.

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Rambler said ()

I'd like to think most people here are inherently good. In fact, I'd say people in general are inherently good regardless of their political beliefs or their anonymous online personas.

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GadgeteerZA said ()

Interesting for us end users of course to know which is what etc, and to know Ramble is based on Postmill, with what looks like additional network protocol options as well as a transparent mod log.

Yes I see the older post dealt with free speech and censorship, but that is also relative to different countries. Many countries do have limitation on both physical and verbal acts in public, and whilst some don't want that, others actually do want that. So I suppose options are always a good thing to have. This is not the Facebook world where users only have one network to choose from. Both networks (and others) end up all flourishing.

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dontvisitmyintentions said ()

what distinguishes ramble.pw from others is it’s run and operated by fascist sympathizers on principles of so-called “free speech”.

Based.

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Hitler_Was_Right said ()

Lemmy censors words and instances, it's a literal shithole.

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burnerben said ()

if it has any type of censorship it sucks. from what i understand lemmy does. so it sucks.

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GadgeteerZA said ()

To be fair, Ramble also has some limitations, so neither platform has "anything goes"?

From Ramble's rules: "some things are just plain illegal and the owners of this community do not wish to be held legally liable to those who misinterpret this website's accessibility via 'the dark net' meaning that it's some sort of unmoderated free-for-all".

Legality differs from country to country and in my country we have very strict laws for example against any form of discrimination, incitements to violence or crime, selling stolen goods, etc. So this does restrict many then fully participating on a "free for all platform". So every user does need to make a judgement call based on their own values and what their country's Constitution or laws state.

"Any form of censorship" in my view then includes the removal of such attempts to sell illegal goods, to someone discriminating against another based on age, gender, sexual preference, religion, political beliefs, etc. Censorship is just a loaded term for moderation. They are exactly the same thing based on rules that exist on a site or within a country.

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Rambler said ()

Well, this site is available via the clearnet and my name is on the bills that pays for this place to stay online. If it's legal, it's fine. This site was never intended to be a home for things like illegal marketplaces and such. The idea behind it was a proof of concept of multi-network accessibility of a reddit-like site and an emphasis on privacy. That's why /f/privacy is the main forum and the one I post to the most.

For a true 'free for all' type experience, I'm sure there are places on Tor that are more open to it. This site isn't one of them and has never been promoted as such.

You can view the Global Moderation Log (nav bar up top) to see what things I remove. It's mostly spam.

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burnerben said ()

Fair point. This could be truly free reign but then this site would just be flooded with cp and honeypots. Rambler will do what he has to do to not get in legal trouble. I think the level of freedom we have on this site surpasses a lot of other sites while still maintaining quality.

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hideyourlies said ()

Also, meh.

Lemmy community didn’t seem to impressed with anything here, but personally I don’t care either. A community that censors its users actions and speech isn’t deemed interesting to me and never will be. Ramble is a very good community regardless of being usable far right/far left who cares.

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