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Wahaha wrote

As much of a privacy nightmare as it is, I kinda dream of a city with high-resolution security cams featuring facial recognition covering every public space, even the sewers. But they would be accessible to everyone, so you can watch it yourself. It could be cooler than reality TV.

Also, I never was too concerned with privacy in public. The problem is how the system can be abused in the future, but then everyone is more or less keeping a tracking device on their body and publishing their opinions on the Internet, so I'm not sure if facial recognition could be abused to do something that isn't already possible anyway.

Maybe people would finally stop littering, if there are cams identifying and fining them automagically.

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Rambler OP wrote

My concern is more private use. I get my face scanned to enter my workplace, and the (biometrics) company state that they retain that for up to 3 years beyond end of employment.

To me, that's up to 3 years too long.

And I don't "mind" it, so long as that information was stored locally and could be purged by HR when an employee ls no longer employed, as part of an after-employment checklist. For example, if you have a company with 700 active employees, then on your LAN you have the biometric hardware/software operating and it contains no more than 700 faces, and doesn't face anything public, as it's only used to allow/deny entry to the building. Doesn't need a web facing control panel, no need to store that data 'in the cloud', etc.

But, that's not how things are done. The biometric company could be bought up by another. It could be hacked. It could be secretly funded by any alphabet agency or sharing data with them.

If it was private use, open source, localized installs across companies and company owned worksites... no problem.

As far as public stuff goes? I'm kind of with you. I have cameras. I use them. Moreso when I lived in the city. Shortly after installation I thought all the hoodlums were casing cars on the street because they were walking in the street instead of on my sidewalk. Turns out they noticed the cameras and thought they were out of view of them if they just walk in the middle of the road. Nope, I still see ya buddy.

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Wahaha wrote

What's the threat scenario of some random company acquiring your face? I think of privacy as a safety feature, so if I can't think of a threat, I have a harder time caring.

That and my passion is archiving, so innately deleting data is somewhat uncomfortable for me.

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Wahaha wrote

Have you seen the show Higashi no Eden? Friends of the protagonist created an app that would let them identify everything, people included. Everyone had the ability to identify new things and add to the database. It was a pretty neat tool, but utterly futuristic back in 2009 when the show aired. That was about when smartphones became common.

And it looked a lot like that screenshot from the site.

The concept was kinda dwarfed by the real point of the show, which was a mobile phone with a billion or so and an operator doing tasks for you by using that money. Like shooting rockets or shipping all shut-ins off to Africa or something like that. Good fun.

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Kalchaya wrote

So long as masks are de rigueur, facial recognition is pretty much a nonissue. Add some sunglasses with a hat, and the tech is dead in the water.

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Rambler OP wrote

Not according to me getting into my workplace. Glasses, hat, mask . Sometimes have to pull my mask down just a tad to reveal the very top of my nose , the bridge, near the eyes.

Its scary .

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