Thoughts on The Congressional Committee on Oversight and Accountability UFO hearings that just took place?

Posted by Rambler in AskRamble (edited )

Congress will held a hearing Wednesday on unidentified anomalous phenomena, also known as UAPs. The event featured firsthand accounts of UAPs sightings and assess their possible threat to U.S. national security.

The hearing, titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency” was hosted by the House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs.

Highlights:

  • Additional details and testimony related to the famous 'tic-tac' incident.
  • Statements of known non-human biological life / non-human pilots of crashed crafts.
  • Claims of physical injury by "both" UAPs and people within the Federal Government.

EDIT: I'm actually watching the hearing now. Some recaps as I hear them.

  • Statement that sightings are common and frequent (Navy, Airforce, other branches)
  • Description of objects observed. (Two F18 Superhornet's being 'split' by a UAP during a training mission. Described as a dark grey or black cube inside of a clear sphere)
  • Sighting of UAPs became a regular part of pre-flight briefs
  • Transparency is needed for national security, but also for scientific and engineering research.
  • Mentioning of a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.
  • Objects being under observation for weeks at a time "Coming down from about 80,000 feet, descending rapidly to about 20,000 feet where they'd suspend for hours and then go straight back. For those who don't know, 80,000 feet is space." (Paraphrasing CDR. Fravor)
  • "We noticed some whitewater ... calm day, no white capped waves, perfect weather ... so the whitewater stood out in the bright blue ocean. ... We looked down and observed a white tic-tac object moving very abruptly over the water ... As we got within about half a mile of it, it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared ... We turned to where the white water was and it was gone as well ... So as we began to turn back towards the east, the thing appeared 60 miles away in less than a minute... you can calculate the speed" (Paraphrasing CDR. Fravor)
  • "We returned and mentioned it to the crews ready to launch and they went out and got that video that you see, the 90 second video. What you don't see is the radar tape that was never released and we don't know where it's at or the active jamming that the object put on. [Continues to discuss how no interviews were taken, no investigation made until 2009]" (Paraphrasing CDR. Fravor)
  • "The tictac object encountered in 2004 was far superior to any technology we had at the time, have today or have the technology to develop in the next ten years"
  • A lot of answers cant' be given publicly, but can in a closed or private session due to classification levels.
  • Discussion of how and what data to collect (eye witness report, sensor data, radar data, other instrument data). Current reporting is limited, and may include only eye witness reporting with no effort made to also collect available sensor, radar or other data). Reducing stigma from the military to report sightings.
  • Certain videos and evidence COULD be released to the public, according to Mr. Grusch, so long as some data is masked from the recording.
  • Complaints of over-classifying and abuse of the classification system to bury evidence and make it difficult for members of Congress and the American people to obtain access. Some examples given.

What do you all think?

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NapkinBlizzard wrote (edited )

I think this is huge news, but I'm surprised that not many people seem to care or just brush it off because there's no smoking gun (authentic videos, photos, etc.). The best we have are the Navy videos that the Pentagon released a while back.

If you want to dive into the rabbit hole, here are some stories from people who have supposedly worked on these retrieval programs:

I wouldn't be surprised if people like this now start to come forward to Congress. Ross Coulthart seems to know of others that want to talk.

Some of the implications of this shit is scary as hell and I don't think our governments will use any of this technology to "help people" or "advance the human race". They just use it to build better bombs and craft to kill "the other guy" (China, Russia, etc.).

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Rambler OP wrote (edited )

Yeah, I'm not sure why this wasn't publicized more or why even on reddit it never made it to /r/news, for example. Most the articles I did read or skim through were vague and didn't really touch base on much of the key points or claims made. Only places I could find on reddit giving an honest go-over was places like /r/conspiracy or, of course, /r/ufos .

I'd say to date it's the most credible and open discussion on the topic. The links you shared are certainly good reads, but submitted by people with unknown credentials and without being under oath in front of congress, though what they stated is very similar to what was shared on Wednesday before the world.

A personal experience of my own: As a kid in the early 90's, and in a very rural part of America, I always had a clear view of the night sky. My childhood was spent outdoors, climbing trees, building forts in the woods and just laying down in the yard at night staring at the stars.

I very distinctly remember seeing a large triangle shaped object one night, with the blunt side moving forward slowly and the pointy tip being the rear of the... thing. It seemed low to the ground (a few hundred feet maybe) and I recall a light in each corner and it moving slowly, that's it. I've never seen anything else in my life since then like that, and then probably about 6 or 7 years ago while sitting around a camp fire sharing some beers with some hikers (strangers) at a shared campsite we all happened to stop at one night while hiking a long trail in the region, we start swapping stories and someone else from the same general area as me mentioned seeing the exact same thing one night during the same timeframe (early 90's), this was mentioned before I had said anything at all. What he described was exactly what I had observed all those years prior.

There is also a military installment nearby, so the 'easy explanation' is that it was simply some experimental military craft that can move slowly, quietly, and 'backwards' (blunt side forward, pointy side backward). We'd occasionally have the house rattled due to sonic booms from military test flights back then, so there was definitely military activity and training in the area during this time period as well. Still eerie to think about it all these years later.

Had a family member in the Air Force who spent a lot of time out in New Mexico, and closer to his death he'd tell some stories. Many seemed like tall tales, but this is a man who wasn't much for gloating or bragging. I think a lot of what he shared was more, "heard through the grapevine", so to speak. He wasn't a front line grunt by any means, but certainly wasn't high up on the totem pole either.

Who knows.

Just seems implausible to think that we're alone and that the elements we require for life are the same elements required for other life. I hope we see more discourse and open transparent discussion on the subject from the government moving forward though!

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not_bob wrote

Not to sound like a nutjob, but there are a lot of things they have kept hidden. More transparency is needed.

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righttoprivacy wrote

As Mulder put it (X-Files): I want to believe 🤓

But very distrustful of the recent flood of coverage, and some moments of testimony aren't as convincing as others.

Without hard evidence: I like to consider any possibly beneficiaries.

(though maybe I should probably watch entire testimony before making a judgement)

One really comes to mind: could really help raise military budgets. 😉

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Rambler OP wrote

I definitely recommend listening to the entire testimony. Once past the normal boring introductions and listening to the three witnesses it gets really good.

Could it be a giant psyop? Sure. Three witnesses were highly credentialed and under oath, but that could be all part of the 'bigger plan' if a giant psyop. If it was, then what for? This hardly got any main stream media coverage so if it was a coverup for something else, it was a piss poor coverup since the only news being regurgitated that day was of our imagining politicians freezing in place (Mitch McConnell) and how hot it was outside.

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