Say you have a friend or family member who doesn't realize, or care, that a lot of what they see online is a manipulation catered to them to sell them junk?

Aside from the obvious: Ad blockers, what would you suggest?

I'm talking about the Windows users using stock IE, Google everything, Facebook hours a day, probably the same password for everything type of person. Is there anything that can help make them safer online without being too much of an inconvenience for someone who doesn't mind the cost of convenience being total lack of privacy?

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notaspook wrote on December 10, 2020 at 12:46 AM

In browser ad-blocking is a start unless you want to go the network route and setup a Raspberry Pi running pi-hole on it. Though the browser addons / plugins are less likely to need tuning, something it sounds like they're not equipped to do.

Once they get used to seeing the internet without ads all over the place, they'll freak out when they get on a computer or device that allows them. That will be a good starting point.

Styromaniac wrote on December 10, 2020 at 1:58 AM

Probably not the answer you want, but ZeroNet.

ZeroNet is passwordless.

Currently though, TOR browser broke the ability to work with ZeroNet, so some privacy might potentially be sacrificed if browsing the wrong site.

Rambler OP wrote on December 10, 2020 at 2:56 AM

I love ZeroNet.

The passwordless feature is neat but I have more than one device and I've not used ZeroNet enough to know how (or if possible) to sync the data between, say, a laptop and a desktop if I want the same ID. I'm sure it's just a stored key file or something, just haven't looked into it.

I'm not sure how to initiate ZeroNet on anything other than a Linux machine, and I can't see someone like most my relatives or friends doing that. Probably a desktop shortcut or app on Windows, I'd imagine?

I'm thinking of ways that just your normal person can experience the internet in a way that isn't too off putting to them, as an end user, but also in a way that values their privacy.

Styromaniac wrote on December 10, 2020 at 3:48 AM

Your account(s) would be stored in users.json in the data directory.

XANA wrote on December 10, 2020 at 2:59 PM

Isn't it a security risk?

Styromaniac wrote on December 12, 2020 at 12:40 AM

No. My accounts are not compromised despite China hacking my phone twice.

Loxbey wrote on December 10, 2020 at 5:56 PM

I recommend switching to a more secure browser (brave, firefox,...). Also i would recommend installing pihole on your network if you have a raspberry pi laying around. (Raspberry Pi 0 is about 5 dollars each + its really easy to set up).

GnomeChumpsky wrote on December 10, 2020 at 2:00 AM

I installed Brave on all of their devices, deleted Chrome and hid Safari.

burnerben wrote on December 10, 2020 at 2:37 PM

don't use brave they track your data thats how you earn crypto if you dont wanna use tor or I2P use firefox. firefox gives you the best privacy setting as far as clear net browsers

RamblingGamblingMan wrote on December 10, 2020 at 7:56 PM

I think setting up a pihole for them is a safe bet since they don't have to do anything. Other than that maybe a password manager with an add-on would be also low on convenience reduction. Or changing their browser to SecBrowser might be a good idea.

Asterix wrote on December 10, 2020 at 8:58 PM

just the common sense stuff adblock,password manager and a open source os or applications.

thats the way. also always think twice and give a small research time before joining any service. You can probably also benefit of a digital Detox.