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riddler said ()

I guess everyone is just going to proceed with this fraud.

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J0yI9YUX41Wx said ()

If it's any consolation, Republicans got George W. Bush under suspicious circumstances. Now let the Democrats have one.

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riddler said ()

I'm not a supporter of W. or Obama. The war mongers won from both presidents and the average citizen lost. The (((Jerusalem Post))) is already talking about needing more troops in Iraq and Biden's only been in office one day.

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burnerben said ()

elaborate please

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riddler said ()

Do you think Biden won legitimately? I don't. There was so much election fraud that is just being ignored. The media is just going to pretend like Biden is uniting people when all he's doing is pushing a radical liberal agenda.

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burnerben said ()

explain to me how he didnt win legitimately

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DashingDex said ()

Voter fraud... Presidency was stolen...

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burnerben said ()

ok explain the voter fraud please siting sources would be helpful

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eeqrhty said ()

Honestly, there is so much to explain that it's not easy to even know where the best place is to begin. But if you want to look into it, you can check out some of the links on hereistheevidence.com and decide for yourself. Whether you think there was enough fraud to change the result or not, I think anyone who spends some time researching it would conclude that it's important to improve the security of our elections.

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burnerben said ()

So your not gonna name specific things with specific sources to back them up? great. i love when people make statements with no real reliable evidence.

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eeqrhty said () (edited )

I was trying to helpfully direct you to a place where you can look into it yourself. Not everyone on the internet wants to get into a debate. I would have to write an extremely long essay to explain all the evidence I know about. I will say this about the video riddler brought up (who you were rude to for no reason).

First of all, you can see in the video that the observers are kept at an unreasonably far distance from where the counting is taking place. This was the case in multiple other states as well.

Secondly, the video shows that they were scanning ballots pulled out from containers after everyone else had gone home. Multiple media outlets reported that the ballot counters had gone home.

Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections, told ABC News that the election department sent the State Farm Arena absentee ballot counters home at 10:30 p.m

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pipe-bursts-atlanta-arena-causing-hour-delay-processing/story?id=73981348

They planned to stop scanning absentee ballots at 10:30 p.m. and pick it up back in the morning. No official could explain before press time why Fulton was stopping its count of absentee ballots at that time, only saying that was the procedure.

https://web.archive.org/web/20201207174145/https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/fulton-election-results-delayed-after-pipe-bursts-in-room-with-b%20allots/4T3KPQV7PBEX3JVAIGJBNBSVJY/

This matches up with the claims of the two Republican observers who gave sworn affidavits saying an election official sent people home some time after 10 pm. https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20420331-mitchell-harrison-affidavit

This debunking article quotes a source from the Secretary of State's office who said "they had a designated observer at that spot all night, the entire time".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-reporter-debunks-georgia-election-fraud-claims-made-by-tucker-carlson-and-sean-hannity/ar-BB1bDEKp

But the observer only specifically claims to have been there from 11:52 pm to 12:45 am after leaving earlier in the evening

A state election board monitor, who asked for his name not to be used due to safety concerns, told Lead Stories on the phone on December 3, 2020, that he was present at the vote counting location beginning at 11:52 p.m., after leaving briefly at earlier in the evening. He then stayed until about 12:45 a.m., when the work that night was completed.

A different debunking article admits the scanners were unattended for about an hour

The scanners were unattended for about an hour until the election observer arrived, according to WSB-TV 2, though they were under video surveillance.

https://checkyourfact.com/2020/12/04/fact-check-video-show-ballots-suitcases-counted-georgia-poll-workers-leave/

The combination of the bogus water leak that supposedly was the reason for counting being delayed (no proof was provided for this), the claims of the media that night that counting had stopped, republican observers being kept far away, the mixed claims about whether the election observer was present the whole time or not… I think it’s suspicious. But this story is just one part of a lot of issues that have happened in multiple states.

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burnerben said ()

I appreciate you providing links and statements but from what i see there's no real evidence against water pipe bursting. and yes an opportunist could have used that gap with the observer there's no evidence anyone did because from what i understand everyone but the observer thought they were gonna be there all night. this was probably to wave off opportunists looking to effect the election.

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AWiggerInTime said () (edited )

Philadelphia stopped counting for some reason, Michigan went radio silent for a few hours just to come out with over 200k votes for Biden and not a single one for Trump., which is statistically impossible.

Virginia poll workers can literally take their ballot boxes home, some funny stuff happened with this. also here's some salt for the "factcheckers"

And not to mention the shitshow that were the mail-in ballots. Dead people voting. Regular people voting multiple times. Not to mention hundreds of thousands of missing ballots.

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Godores said ()

Biden stole the election and got away with it because the media wanted it that way. What are you going to do about it?

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burnerben said ()

As for the first i don't think either of us has a good enough understanding of exactly how they count and organize submitting ballots to say weather that could be true or not. so lets same neutral on that.

As for the virginia part if you read into it its for special authorized people and the purpose is to prevent voter fraud.

And if you want to complain about missing ballots talk to your cheeto in chief (or ex now) he purposly started breaking down the usps months before the election because most biden votes were via mail and he'd have an excuse.

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AWiggerInTime said () (edited )

i don't think either of us has a good enough understanding of exactly how they count

Try it with your fingers, counting's really not that hard.

its for special authorized people and the purpose is to prevent voter fraud

So instead of locking it in some safe with partial keys distibuted amongst those authorized people, so single person has access to it, giving ALL the ballots to just one link in the chain makes it somehow better?

Have you ever heard the word 'corruption'?

breaking down the usps months before the election

Not an argument, orange man bad.

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burnerben said ()

  1. i meant procedures autismo
  2. got any actual proof of corruption or are you just gonna keep shitting until it runs down your pants
  3. lets have deep anal sex
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RoboGoat2000 said () (edited )

There's a very long list of evidence, but I'll name just a few:
Dead voters
Double voters
Felon voters
Juvenile voters
Non-citizen voters
Out-of-state voters
Signature matching errors
Voting machine irregularities

Please, read about the total numbers of voter fraud and the methods for acquiring the data at https://navarroreport.com

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burnerben said ()

The reason you think theres so many false votes for biden via mail is because your president(ex) and fox news encouraged you to not vote by mail there for the majority was biden votes. this and degrading usps' efficiency is just a tactic to help him make it look like it could have been false. but the plain truth is that trump didn't handle corona virus the way he should've. that was the only thing he did wrong. if he handled it correctly he'd still be president. but he fucked up and lied to us over and over again. i don't fully support biden but i definitely don't support a lier that helped kill 400,000 people including some of my close family members.

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RoboGoat2000 said ()

Eh, what? Nothing of what you said has anything to do with the types of evidence of voter fraud I listed off. For example: double voters. In some states, just the amount of people that voted twice swayed the election results. That has nothing to do with the pandemic or ratios about mail-in ballots. Just read the fucking evidence. God damn.

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burnerben said ()

sorry im too tired of debating at this point but ill leave you with this. penis

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riddler said ()

I think there are enough problems that need to be fleshed out before Biden can be accepted as legitimate.

What is your thoughts on the Georgia video of pulling out ballots after the election monitors are told to go home?

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burnerben said ()

hey man im not sure if you have eyes none the less a brain but its not hard to logic that they are more ballots that their bringing out for tomorrow or more counting and because of no audio in the footage it cant be ruled out that they were taking a break. if youd like to show me some solid evidence from credible sources id be happy to discuss.

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riddler said ()

hey man im not sure if you have eyes none the less a brain

I didn't start by insulting you. If you want to have an adult discussion then start acting like one.

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div1337 said ()

One side screams fraud, the other side said there's no fraud. I think many people just want proper investigation and let the findings guide us.

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